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  Have you read the information on this web site and / or the book/film, Return To Glory: The Powerful Stirring of the Black Man? If so, you are welcome to express your "unvarnished opinions". As we receive responses we will publish those opinions on this "Assault and Flattery" page. The email from Lenese (from Caribbean) below got us thinking about providing the "Assault and Flattery" forum on this web site.

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Ground Rules: This forum is open to all races, religions and creeds. Co-authors Joel Freeman and Don Griffin will serve as final editors regarding what ultimately gets published on this page. We will permit pretty much any comments, but draw the line on vulgar language, any personal attacks upon any others who have commented, and length of response...well, you get the picture. Beyond that -- when we ask for "unvarnished opinions", we are asking for "unvarnished opinions!" Get the picture? Also, if you respond directly to someone who has posted on this page, please do so with respect.

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Subject: Response to Return to Glory (First post to this page, which gave us the idea for this forum...)
From: Caribbean
Name: Lenese
I have viewed most of the website and have also heard about the book but have not yet had the chance to read it. However, everyone (Whites & Blacks) I know who has, concede that it is a powerful book. Where I live (CARIBBEAN) the subject of racial prejudice and inequalities are very prevalent, though not as exposed as it is in your country. Here it is very subtle, and I think this is the worst type. The site seems quite comprehensive except that there was no place provided for individual opinions. One suggestion: as you progress you can probably make the addition of a chat room, (but supervised -- this is a volatile topic and discussions can get out of hand). This will provide an opportunity for people who genuinely want reconciliation, to talk about the book and what the knowledge provided in it has done for them, and they can help others. I believe talking is an important part of healing.
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Subject: Response to the Return To Glory book
From: Florida
Name: Patrick
I am 22 years old. I heard about this book from a guy I barely knew at work. I donít usually read but for some reason that title, ďReturn To GloryĒ stuck in my head. 10 months later I finally bought the book. I was hooked. I intended on reading a few words. Honestly, didnít expect to finish the book. I figured I would get bored after a few pages. When I picked the book up, I couldnít put it down. Chapter after chapter I felt like I was being reborn. After reading the book I feel like Iíve been lost for all these years and walking in the dark, but finally see a spark of light.

 I can say that I lost faith in the Great Warrior. But this book has encouraged me to re-invite Him back into my life. Like a domino effect or ďSiroccoĒ effect, I feel like Iím starting to see and notice more signs encouraging me to keep moving. Not to be stagnant but to grow, live and learn.

 I donít have a role model and never had one as a young boy. My mother, bless her heart, no matter how hard she tried could not give me that model or what a man and who a man was.  All I heard was that my father ainít shit. And all I seen were her boyfriends beating her up, beating on her. See there was really no positive to being a man but feeling that I was destined to be nothing more than waste.

 I just wanna say that now Iím a young man that wants to stand on my own two toes. But lacking for a lot more inspiration and information on how I can learn to be comfortable in my own skin. I tend to fear the unknown, scared of the dark and I just need something to show me that regardless of my environment and how I was programmed. My father was weak, not because he was weak in the mind, but in the flesh. But I realize that I am already blessed. Instead of worrying about what I donít have I see that I need to be thankful for what I do have (mother and family and friends).

 Iíve built barriers around myself to protect myself from the world and to keep everything out. But not knowingly blocking my blessing along with everything else. Now I see I am a prisoner in my own mind because the walls I have to keep everything out is also keeping me in, preventing me to explore, learn, grow, feel and most importantly fly. I want to kiss the sky.

 This book has shown me that I have wings and they have a purpose. I want to say that Iím not educated, but I truly canít say that. I still need more because even though this book has sparked my interest it still hasnít moved me. I need much more. My walls are still thick and strong to break through may take a lifetime. But I donít care. Iíll put forth the effort. I just hope you can point me in the right direction with more.  Thank you,   Patrick
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Subject: Response to this page
From: Caribbean
Name: Keino 
What is wrong with some of you people who don't believe that true Africans are intelligent enough to civilize a nation. I'm not talking about ancient Egyptians, but other African people. There are pyramids and archeological evidence in South America and Central America that clearly depicts Negroes as the astute people who brought astronomy to these civilizations. There are statues of pure Negroes that depicts this. Scientist test these statues by carbon dating and they date back to before the time of the Vikings and other Europeans crossed the Atlantic Ocean. This is fact and was just recently on the Discovery Channel. However they stated themselves that, "This knowledge contradicts all that we have been taught about the first people that crossed Americas from the east, besides the Native Americans. Back to the Egypt thing! It is obvious that the ancient Egyptians who build the pyramids were of Negro origin. Eventually they started to mix with the whites and Semites who changed their genetic make up. As one goes from the old dynasty to the new dynasty, it is evident in the changes of the depiction of the Egyptians that they were an evolving people. Just look at structure like the sphinxes. They are undeniably Negro in features. The Sphinxes and pyramids are from the time of true Negro rule before race mixing happened in Africa. Another thing! There are "tribes" of African people in India, China, South America and North America who' the Europeans met there when they came to colonize these nations. These things were "accidentally" left out of the history books. When there Europeans came to conquer and rule, they need to establish themselves as the superior so it would have been no benefit for them to include anything about the great past Negro civilization that they were discovering. They need to have people support slavery so Negroes had to be viewed as beasts and sub-human. It is a fact that thousands of mummies from Egypt was used as fuel and burned. We don't know they genetic make up of them. They could have been the Negro fathers and mothers of Egyptian civilization. If one looks at the origin of different races, we see that Caucasians came from Russia's caucus mountains and settled into the countries below. The African came from Africa and moved north. If I had to bet based on statistical analysis and historical evidence like the bible, I would bet that the Ancient Egyptians were Black/Negro. Just like the blacks in America are viewed. 
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Subject: FROM White Pride Alexandria (W.P.A)
From: Claiming to be from Alexandria, Egypt
Name: Andreas Demetriou

The Real Egyptians are white. Nxxxxxx where used as SLAVES of the Pharohs. Stop STEALING WHITE HISTORY . WHITE HERITAGE : GREECE - EGYPT - ROME

A White Man from the real capital of Egypt, Alexandria.!

"Nxxxxx Nxxxxx GET ON THAT BOAT Nxxxxx Nxxxxx ROW , Nxxxxx Nxxxxx GET OUT OF HERE Nxxxxx Nxxxxx GO GO GO"

Organization for the Defense of the White Heritage.

White Power Alexandria (W.P.A)

To the Right -->
Reworked image of
RTG book that came
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Subject: Response to this page
From: USA
Name: Rngr1081@aol.com
African religion gave the West Judaism, Christianity and Islam. The idea of the Trinity, the Ten Commandments (42 Negative Confessions). Abraham was not born in Europe, as was not Moses, as was not Jesus nor Muhammad. What was Europe's contribution again? Connect the dots, please. The great Christian theologist St. Augustine was a black African, at least his 2 parents were! Were was the first Christian church built (Rome or Carthage)? Cartage (Phoenicia), home of the 'Moors.' But the Moors, like the Egyptians weren't black. Except when the Shakespeare (English) wanted to write a Moorish play (Othello). Or when Herodotus wanted to write a contemporary history. 

When did the Jewish, Christian expansion to Europe happen? (Rome 3/400 hundred years after the birth of Christ) The genes of the Lemba in South Africa, the Falasha Jews of Ethiopia and West African conclaves show Hebrew markers! The so-called Cohan (priest) gene. Europe root language and writing system is Asiatic (Sanskrit), Europe decided to 'name it' Indo-European! The wheel? Europe was the last continent to develop (read your European history before 800 B.C., dare you). Europeans did not have the mathematical concept of zero until Arab (North Africans) translated their math books for them (algebra is an Arabic word! as is many of your higher mathematical names). 

After the Crusades, these Arabic translations were translated into European languages (it took quite awhile, ever thought about why the 'Enlightenment' period followed the Crusades and the Dark ages)? A thousand years of...? One of the greatest black African scholars was Al-Jahiz (Black African Muslim). Who translated the first Greek and Latin works for Europeans? (read the Greek historian 'Herodotus'). Greeks philosophers and 'learned' men were going to study in the sub-Saharan African Universities (Jena,Timbucktoo as well as Cairo). The Dogon peoples (tribes is a European 'title') charted the stars and had a mathematical system. The first University in Europe was the one the Moors built in Spain. Egypt had been conquered by the Assyrians, Phoenicians, Greeks, Romans, Turks as well as the English. I wonder why the modern Egyptian phenotype doesn't look like a West African? 

Though many, very many would be looked upon as an African-American by sight. Have you ever seen Egyptian presidents Anwar Saddat or Mubarik? How about Colin Powell, the son of 2 African-Americans? In a thousand years, will his portrait be considered black? Do modern Egyptians consider themselves black? Ask Egyptain-born school teacher, Dr. Mostafa Hefny who sued for his right to be 'classified' as black against the American government's OMB Directive #15. Dr. Hefny stated "my complexion is as dark as most Black Americans. My features are clearly African. Classification as it is done by the United States government provides whites with legal ground to claim Egypt as a White civilization. We are fools if we allow them to take this legacy from us." African had it's slavery before the Portuguese landed on it's shores as well as every other culture (the word slave came from the enslavement of European 'Slavonic' people).

The greatest difference with the Trans-Atlantic slave trade was not only basic behavior of Europeans toward Africans, Indians, Asian as well as any 'other' people they encountered but the institutional racialization (and rationalization) of a culture that taught (comforted) themselves that slavery was inherently racial and a justifiable condition of inferior 'groups'. The pseudoscientific rationalization of the 'superior races,' which science has refuted more than enough times but alas without much effect it seems. There are no 'pure' Europeans! Vistigoths, Vandals, Goths, Basques, Picts, Celts, Gaelics, Angles, Franks, Normans, Saxons, Iberians, Slavs (read earlier works on 'Slavs' with an 'E' added) etc....

Learn ancient European history (as late as 900 A.D.) and that point will quickly become moot. The English learned the rules of their brand of slavery from their own 'Irish' slave trade. Remember when they were a separate and uncivilized 'race.' Read the 'Statute of Kilkenny,' the earliest race law. 16th century English policy concerning the Irish ("Every Irishman shall be forbidden to wear English apparel or weapon upon pain of death. That no Irishman, born of Irish race and brought up Irish, shall purchase land, bear office, be chosen of any jury, or admitted witness on any real or personal action, nor be bound apprentice to any science or art. ...") in Ireland sounded very familiar to black slavery codes.

Pilgrims fleeing to escape public burnings (religious persecution). Later the British emptied their overcrowded jails and 'ghettoes' in England (for a price) to provide the American colony with cheap labor as well as buffer against the Native American. Where these poor and criminalized section of the English and Celtic population were also exploited. Historical selective memory? Remember the penal (prison) colony of Australia? You may believe Galileo and da Vinci are related to you but the illiteracy rate for Europe at the time was 85-95% including Royalty. Books were in not in Europe first either. 
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Subject: Response to information on web site
From: USA
Name: George
Sir.....For informational purposes only : Africa never had " Kings and Queens. The titles , "Kings and Queens" are , European titles. The glorious White man named African Black leaders as, "Chiefs'. Chiefs had many wives. "best wife, second best wife , third best wife etc. Never Kings and Queens. Sub-saharan Africans never discovered agriculture, a coherent religion, writing, the wheel, philosophy or any teachings that was of use for the civilized world at large. Africans sold into slavery by their own people brought nothing with them. Even the meager clothes they wore were taken from them. Everything present day Blacks have is due to the Arabs or the White man, for good or bad. Your religion, your language both written and spoken are benefits Blacks have derived from Whites.

Above the Sahara, Blacks had glory days in ancient times. Nubia, Kush, Punt to name but three. However, most slaves of the mid-1500's were not from any of those lands. Most slaves came from sub-sahara Africa. Present day Blacks are 'piggy-backing' on the acheivements of successful Blacks north of the Sahara . It is akin to a Yugoslavian taking credit for acheivements of Irishmen. The same continent but entirely different peoples.

I have several Egyptian friends. One of whom is connected with the Cairo Museum. She has been livid upon learning American Blacks have literaly hi-jacked their culture , as are her associates. Dr Hawass, the famous Egyptologist would love to acquaint you and other 'piggy-backers' as to the real Egyptian culture. They are not Black. To invent a history is one thing;, to hi-jack another peoples is another thing entirely......

Blacks , in general may have been successful on the sub-continent but we will never know since they never invent writing. However, if the way many primitive tribes still live is any indication, slavery was the best thing to have ever happened to the Black man. The decendents of those slaves are the ones who have benefitted, without a doubt. You certainly wouldn't want to live in present day Nigeria, Uganda or Zimbabwe, would you ?

The "slave masters' were the slave brokers, the Arabs. They sold to all comers including other Blacks.....It is curious that American Blacks will drop what is considered by them a slave name, in favor of the slave broker, his name and religion, Islam.
--- George Thomas
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Subject: Response to the Ancient Egyptian Photo Gallery
From: Minneapolis MN 
Name: Dave -- An English-Irish-Scotch-Norwegian-French American
Your Egyptian pictures are very interesting and well done, and some I hadn't seen before. But my overall impression is "so what?".

1. Many of the Egyptian people you portray (not all) don't look very Negroid - only "somewhat" Negroid.
2. If Khafre was the model for the Sphinx, then I was the model for the Statue of Liberty and the Mona Lisa.
3. The mix of people found in 450 BC may have been quite different from those of 2500 BC. In fact, we note a tendency towards sloppiness in their art as the Dynasties advance.
4. But even if Negroes did all these wonderful things several thousand years ago, so what? Does that mean I should embrace the man in the car next to me with his stereo blasting out rap music while his car windows are rolled down? Should I yell out to him, "Hey, blood, here's to your ancestors!". The so-called "blacks" of Egypt *appear* to be far more cultured and civilized than those here in America (as a general rule). Too bad they didn't make any tape recordings of their voices and music.
5. If they were great once, let them be great again. Let them begin by building a replica of Khufu's pyramid. Then we'll talk...
Dave
Mainframe computer programmer
Minneapolis, MN

PS: There's no solid evidence that the Egyptians built Khufu's pyramid, anyway.
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Subject: Response to Web Site
From: USA
Name: Delvin Baldwin
I have always been fascinated about African American history, when the movie Amistad hit the movie theaters I cried like a baby when I learn that so many of my ancestors were murdered simply because they were black. I have been dealing with discrimination, racism, inequality ever since I knew what those words meant, and my battle with such racial demonic spirits is ongoing, and I am no ways from being tired. I long for the day that the truth about our history is revealed convincingly without any debate from our oppressors, so if I can be of any assistance in your movie, please don't hesitate to ask. Thanks for giving me this opportunity to voice my opinion. Delvin L. Baldwin 
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Subject: Response to Web Site
From: ?
Name: Beniyah
i do feel that there is a need to claim all peoples of Arican decent even from the Nile to the Euphraties... it was and is still Africa even after the cutting of the Suez. The ancient Hebrew were and are Black. there were no Europeans at the time of the climax of those Afro-Asiatic Nations and Semites are Aro-Asiatics... not Caucus peoples. www.kingdomofyah explains who we are and our migration as many Nations even as far back as 500 BCE did to the west coast. i still love your work. This along with the book "Blacks in Antiquity" are sure and valid resources to have. lets claim back our history. Even the first Greeks and Romans. its all ours. Not cause i am on a race kick, but for the sake of Truth and my childrean. thank you. Shalom
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Subject: Response to Web Site
From: ?
Name: Josh
I'll break the ice right away, after viewing multiple Egyptian artifacts I can see that the Egyptians were certainly not black. This is the same type of bullsh*t propaganda that white supremacists use to assert that Nordics formed the foundation of Egyptian culture. Even in the supposed Egyptian race comparison guide in your gallery, the "Indo-European" man looks far more like a Mongol, and dark hair was simply not a trait of the late indo-Europeans. Also, if you look at Tutankhamun's coffin, there is a clear portrait of Egyptians fighting off a much darker race. If you don't believe me, have a good look at Tutankhamun's chair too.

Anthropologists have classified the Egyptians of the old kingdom as a sub-race known as "Mediterraneans," this race has mixed out of existence, and later dynasties reveal artifacts and portraits of people who clearly have Semitic or Nordic blood. Egyptologists have determined that the early Egyptians slowly moved north to the coast of Africa, and there are traces of battles with Negroes. There is also evidence that the Negroes had a culture of their own that is somewhat advanced, but it might also have been the remains of the Mediterranean race. Read into it, but don't compile black propaganda.
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Subject: Response to Web Site
From: ?
Name: Calling you on your B--- S---!
Why do you try desperately to try to connect yourself with the Egyptians. It is like the Irish trying to take responsibility for the glories of Rome because they are from Europe too. Your slant on Egyptian history is false and inaccurate. You only have to look at the countless mummies of pharaohs with their NON-Negroid hair (sometimes red brown as in the case of the mummy of Rameses II) and the tomb paintings where they are portrayed as BLACK with bongo lips and cranial head shapes that look like evolving apes. The Egyptians were proud of their heritage and took great pains to establish how they were represented in art. And it is obvious that they didn't want to be mistaken for the people that lived to the South of Egypt. It is obvious that you being the miserable descendant of slaves are trying to connect yourself with a much more interesting and important culture. Your argument might be believable if the slaves of Africa were imported from Egypt. Your argument also might be believable if the language, gods, art and architecture of southern Africa were similar to Egyptian. BUT THEY ARE NOT!!!! Face it- you are the miserable progeny of a diseased and ignorant race of loincloth, bone in the nose wearing savages from the anywhere but Egypt. You make me sick!
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Subject: Response to information on web site
From: USA
Name: Anonymous
I'M WRITING ABOUT YOUR WEB SITE, THE INFO ON EGYPT AND THE HYKSOS. I MUST SAY, FIRST, THAT IT WAS A WELL WRITTEN AND INFORMATIVE SITE, ALBEIT THE RACE ISSUES. WHICH IS MAINLY WHY I WAS COMPELLED TO WRITE THIS E-MAIL. I AGREE THAT EGYPTIANS HAD SOME BLACK RULERS, HOWEVER IF YOU COMPARE THE TIME THEY RULED (THE NUBIANS) IN THE OVERALL SCHEME OF THINGS, IT WAS QUITE A SHORT TIME. THE EGYPTIANS WERE VERY THOROUGH IN EVERYTHING THEY DID (FOR THE MOST PART), AND AS FAR AS COLOR IS CONCERNED, WHEN A "BLACK" PERSON WAS SHOWN, THEY LOOKED BLACK. MOST EGYPTIAN ART SHOWS EGYPTIANS AS A MUCH LIGHTER SHADE. AND FROM WHAT I SAW, THE EGYPTIANS, WHEN DEPICTING BLACKS, THEY LOOKED BLACK. SO, THE MAIN THING I'M GETTING AT IS HOW IS THE WHOLE BLACK EGYPTIAN ARGUMENT FEASIBLE? I MEAN, WERE THEY A PACK OF RACISTS? I THINK NOT, THIS WHOLE NOTION OF A BIG EGYPTIAN RACE COVER UP IS LUDICROUS. AND AS A BLACK MAN, I'M UPSET THAT IN ORDER TO FEEL SUPERIOR, SOME AFRICAN PEOPLE FEEL THIS GREAT NEED TO MAKE UP STORIES ABOUT THESE VAST ANCIENT EMPIRES, FULL OF SUPREMELY POWERFUL BLACK MEN. I DON'T PROFESS TO "KNOW IT ALL," HOWEVER, I'VE HAD THIS ARGUMENT FLUNG AROUND THE HOUSE AS A BOY, AND FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN, IT HOLDS NO WATER. I DO, HOWEVER, BELIEVE THAT THE NUBIANS DID RULE A SHORT WHILE, IN THE TIME EGYPT ENDURED, A VERY SHORT TIME INDEED. I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY EVERYONE IS TRYING TO DISPROVE THE IDEA THAT THE EGYPTIANS WERE NOT ENTIRELY BLACK. IT'S A TIRED OLD ARGUMENT, IT SOUNDS A LOT LIKE THE CRAP THAT WHITE SUPREMACISTS ARE CONSTANTLY SPOUTING, AND THAT, TO ME IS SAD.
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Subject: Response to a letter from this page
From: ?
Name : Chris

Yes, I just want to say that mainly the race that Egyptians belonged to is a battleground between many people online. African-Americans who are mainly descended from West Africans, and Whites, most of who have no clue to the Egyptians. Now, a Kushite descendent speaks. I'm Eritrean by national descent, by bloodline and tribal line, I am Nubian-Kushite, Nubian-Puntite(Eritrea and surrounding areas were ancient Punt), Sabean( Blacks on both sides of southern Red Sea), and Axumite. The latter 3 replace each other with time. As for Egyptian bloodline, unlikely. It seems strange that Blacks are stereotyped as dark skin, flat nose, kniky hair, etc. Whites come in various forms, but you are all White, everyone sees you as that, and most of our proud of that. Good. So are we Blacks. I was shocked to find out that every African civilization, including Egypt before White Euro's and Asians migration and invasions, have Kushite influence. Or that most of Africa made up the Kushite Empire from Pre-Egypt times to early 300's. Pure blooded Egyptians were Black from northeast Africa, so many of them had NE African features, like Eritreans, Ethiopians, Sudanese, Somali, etc. So that ancient unification between ancient Africans give Black Americans little claim. We modern Nubians (Northeast Africans) get full claim to Egypt, all of Nubia, Sabea, and other Black civilizations in our domains. And some guy said that his friends were Egyptian and were pissed because their culture was taken? They're Arabs by bloodline and Egyptian by nationality, the last and successful invaders of not just Egypt, but most African civilizations by manipulating Islam, as terrorists do today. Same applies to Berbers of N. Africa, though they were ancient whites who moved from Asia 5,000+ years ago. So every one not of Nubian bloodline, don't come here claiming ours. Many early white "historians, archeologists, etc.", when manipulating findings, stories, and facts in general, said that we Northeast blacks are Hamitic, that we don't have the Negro look. A great book is BLACK SPARKS, WHITE FIRE by Richard Poe, or THEY CAME BEFORE COLUMBUS. The first is Mexican-Russian Jew, second Guyanese Black, and they have unbiased facts that everyone into ancient history should look to. And I'm just here to let everyone know about accurate historical facts, not to bash on you. It was just 2 years ago I found out my bloodline as Nubian, and my pride with it. 
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Subject: Response to Return To Glory
From: USA
Name: Shewill
I've read your book. It is excellent. Good references. This book introduced me to the works of Ivan Van Sertima and many other scholars whose works I have purchased. To have a white male involved as co-author was an interesting twist. A little distracting but still okay. A reviewer below made some euro-centric remarks about Africans not being so great, killing each other in Rwanda, etc. Newsflash to him (her) and others. Racism is being able to see faults in others while not being able to see the same in yourself. Example, white people kill each other and call it ethnic cleansing. World War II was based on a German white man (Hitler) causing genocide to German white Jews. Anyway, this book was very good. I have an East African friend reading it right now. Thanks to the authors.
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Subject: Response to information on web site
From: Canada
Name: Terry
Please allow me to give you some feedback about my personal reaction to your book. I must state that this is my personal reaction and I am not speaking on behalf of anyone else nor any organization.

I have visited your links below, viewed the photo gallery, and read the first chapter, along with the reviews. WOW! Either I am incredibly naive or the 'Black/White' issues in Canada is not as huge as it is in the U.S.. I have never grown up even considering that "black people" were a debtor to society nor sub human. Therefore, I also would not have thought about "Instead of being a debtor to humanity, black people were the foundation, the very spring, from which civilization as we know it has flowed.". With that said, I am surprised by the book, Return to Glory. It appears at first read like it is written with a great deal of animosity and hurt. I certainly was taken back to think that I, and all Caucasians, are being portrayed as oppressors of the African American. I await the opportunity to read the rest of the book because I have great difficulty in believing that is the tempo of the whole book. I realize that this is not written with a Caucasian as its primary reader and would hope that you take some care in clarifying that this is not an anti white book but rather, as the title suggests, a Return to Glory--I did not get that feeling while visiting the site. 

I'm sure that being a Canadian I am sheltered from some of the issues that my brothers to the south face and therefore am somewhat naive. Please understand that this is the platform from which I write. I respect and that you for actually taking a stand and that someone like Tony Campolo endorses the book. However, I think it is dangerous, and isolating, to build up any one people group as the one and only means from which our civilization has flowed. Personally, I don't believe for one second that any one people group, the Greeks, Romans, or Egyptians were the "foundation... from which civilization as we know it has flowed.". I am certainly not speaking as an expert (or as one who is highly informed for that matter) but you may want to take a look at an even older civilization--that of the Orientals (specifically the Chinese). I await the opportunity to read the whole book and be enlightened,
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Subject: Response to the historical overview page
From: USA
Name: Michael
if the africans wre so wise and powerful what the hell happened and dont say you trusted us and got screwed africans wre ruthless they sold thier own in to slavery and when the british refused to buy slaves or allow them to be traded you killed them for meesing with your money and it was a pity for the african captives after that because they didnt turn enemies loose but tried to kill them all just check out rawanda same practice if they could have sold those hutus you know they would have.

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Michael, first learn to spell correctly before you make a complete idiot of yourself as you have done. No one believes you, a fool who cannot spell has no creditably. (Editor -- We're still wondering what "creditably" means. Hmmm...
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Subject: Response to Return To Glory
From: USA
Name: Marshae
I just finished reading Chapter 1 of Return to Glory....and I must say that it was very compelling and invoked a lot of feeling inside of me. I am a young African-American female who has recently gone through a tremendous transition. I was always happy go lucky, carefree, and loved everybody, that is until I woke up in the real world. Now, when I read or hear about a crisis that an African-American person, usually male, has gone through simply because of his race, I feel a direct impact. Now, I feel so much anger and resentment towards groups of people rather than individuals. I know this to be wrong and I have full intentions of cleansing myself of these thoughts and feelings. I believe my knowledge of African-American Heritage and on the African-American experience is very limited. This book is exactly what I need to begin the process of enriching my life and maybe helping me resolve my conflicts within. Thank you. Congratulations to you both on a great book.
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Subject: Response to Return To Glory
From: USA
Name: Douglas
I have read your book and I was impressed. The first ten chapters had me sitting on the corner of my seat. The latter part of the book is obviously for people who were searching. Thanks for your time and effort I have recommended your book "Return to Glory" to many of my friends who have questions but do not want to ask.
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Subject: Social System of America
From: Ghana
Name: Guido
I read the first chapter of your book and believe you are on to one hot topic which as an African, pan African and student who rejected the social system of America (insofar as it relates to the black man's position in that same society as well as the societal institutions for perpetuating the society) as seen through someone at Princeton University. I would like to read this book as well as place a link to it on my website.
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Subject: A Travesty
From: ?
Name: AmirahLibra
I am appalled that an Afrikan man ( our true origin) is cohabitating w/ descendants of the slave master to write a book for young Afrikan men. If you felt a need to write this book and was unable to do it alone there are many Afrikan men you could have selected. This is just another instance of the Caucasian who slaughtered the Native Americans, robbed, stole, enslaved and colonized the Continent of Afrika being given free rein to further think he knows more about us than we ourselves.

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You want justice and equality in an oppressive society, but then you despise any human being who reaches out to help, just because he doesn't fit into your "color scheme." Go ahead and read about the biblical profile of the Samaritans -- an oppressed people who -- incapable of fighting off their enemy -- took the next "best" route -- trying to keep their own people involved with the "enemy" -- even when the "enemy" was Jesus. On the Day of Judgment Harriet Tubman is going to condemn narrow minded people like you for your spiritual blindness and reactionary pride. She didn't disdain John Brown. You sit in your smugness and disdain what two co-workers are doing, and you'd rather spit on them than appreciate the good that is intended. You are a good defense for the argument that just because people are oppressed -- it doesn't make them righteous...nor free from prejudice. You have a lot of "soul work" to do. 
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Subject: Huh?
From Australia
Name: Michael Schoeman
I haven't read this book, but happened to stumble onto your message. I don't understand why you are so appalled by the fact that an Afrikan man collaborated with another person. because that's all they are, 2 people. why do you feel you have to bring race into the equation? You speak of the caucasian people as though they can be blamed for the terrible happenings of history. That makes you a racist because you've condemed someone because of the colour of their skin, instead of seeing them as their own individual. What happened to the Afrikan people was terrible, but had nothing to do with us. we are their decendants, but are completely different people to them and cannot be blamed for their actions. I am from south africa, so i'm probably more african then you are. You should wake up and realise that who someone is, has nothing to do with race, be it Afrikan or Caucasian. 
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